Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-3329304-20121130082537/@comment-11878042-20130710081738

I'm in the process of re-watching this anime, as I hadn't watched through in years. So pardon me if I get a detail wrong or something.

Well, first off, it's obvious that Nathan is not a true chevalier of Diva nor Saya, seeing as he knew so much about queens, his past was never exactly clarified like the other chevaliers', and his conversation with Amshel in episode 48 quoted on the bottom of Nathan's wiki page (on here).

Now... Perhaps their mother actually was the red queen? It was named SAYA after all, whose name was passed down to the next red queen.

According to the anime, Nathan Mahler is a chevalier to a red queen, as he was not killed by Saya's blood. (To the contrary, he was killed by Saya's blood in the manga. If the manga was made afterwards, then it wasn't truly the 'original' Blood Plus, and wouldn't matter in the anime's case anyway.) Also, the evidence in the anime (refer to said quote above) pointed to the fact that he was probably their mother's chevalier rather than her lover (isn't he a homosexual, anyway?) or the opposite queen's chevalier. If he was the opposite queen's chevalier, I doubt he would have been so fancy with SAYA or her children, nor known about the blood losing its effect after conceving.

That being said, it may be difficult to explain why he decided to stand by Diva's side rather than Saya's as a red chevalier. Perhaps it was the fact that Hagi kept Saya under his protection? Perhaps Nathan didn't like the fact that Saya didn't truly understand Diva and wanted to kill her? Perhaps Nathan was more interested in the childish, playful, and also girly Diva? Perhaps he was attracted to Diva's voice? Perhaps he didn't like Saya's overall and human-siding nature? Perhaps he did care for both queens, but knew Saya was in good hands and Diva was not, therefore wanting to keep an eye on Diva instead? Perhaps he wanted to side with the queen who he knew could kill him in attempt to stay safe? Or hell, for all we know, perhaps he wanted to get into Diva's chevaliers' pants...

There was a point in the anime in which Nathan did stop James from killing Saya. His actions may point to the fact that he did indeed still respect his former queen's red daughter as well. As for watching the queens battle it out, he was probably enjoying it for old time's sake; he probably witnessed this same thing with the previous queens. If he knew so much about the queens anyway, he probably knew that the two opposing one another was just natural, and that the battle was inevitable.

HOWEVER another interesting theory is that there were no previous twin queens. Their mother could have been the "purple" queen, as fans have called it. It may explain the previous queen's chiropteran appearance, and the fact that she was not seemingly killed by her sister queen. This could also explain why Nathan (apparently) crystallizes upon being exposed to Saya's blood, but does not die. Also note Nathan's quote, "Years ago, there was Saya and Diva and the mummy that was their mother.". No other queen was particularly mentioned, although he didn't necessarily say 'only'. Although it is a good theory, it can be invalidated by the fact that Nathan knew that a queen's blood lost its effect (seeing as there had to be another queen to prove this speculation correct, let alone bring it about). That leaves the question... Where is the other queen? If he knew that conceiving children causes the blood to lose its effect, it was indeed tested and revealed through usage on the other queen, who would live on since she did not die from it.

I dunno, I'm currently out of ideas and getting lazy. It is almost 4am here. xD But I'd be more than glad to keep the debate/thread going. What do you guys think? Any extra evidence to support any theories behind this man? TL;DR? It's okay. Lol.